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![[Previous Flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina]](../images/b/ba-92.gif)
image by Željko Heimer, 29 January 2005
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Reuters has an article about the new Bosnia and Herzegovina
flag. This article reads that Bosnian Moslem leader Alija
Izetbegovic, the chairman of the country's collective presidency,
has proposed declaring the old flag with the fleur de lis to be
the banner of the Bosnian Moslem people.
Mark Sensen, 5 February 1998
Official Bosnia-Herzegovina flag, adopted 6th of April 1992
temporarly, and 20th of May permanently. Was the first flag to be
waved by Bosnia on East River, Barcelona Olympics, etc. Lasted
till Westendorp's new corn-flake-flag.
Velid-aga Jerlagic, 13 April 1998
Communique of the Mission of the Republic of B&H to
Commandant Du Payrat 14 April 1997 include a (not extremely
useful) construction sheet of the Coat of Arms and a drawing of
the flag. The flag does not have a construction sheet but the
caption says "manufactured measures to be proportional to
those in the layout". The shown flag is a vertical flag, and
as far as I am aware all the official documentation consider the
flag to be vertical, even if it was used as horizontal flag (i.e.
with the Coat of Arms rotated "normally") whenever
needed. The flag shown in the drawing is (approximately, but the
discrepancy may be due to the faxing and copying of the printed
material) 1:2 with the coat of arms set in the middle. The width
of the Coat of Arms is 56% of the width of the flag, as I
measured it.
Željko Heimer, 29 January 2005
Velid-aga claims that the previous flag of BA was adopted on 6
april 1992 as a temporary flag and on 20 May as permanent one.
However, I received recently from Adi Mirojevic the text of the
decision that intoduced the 1992 flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
The decision was issued in the official gazette on 27 March 1992
and became valid on the same day.
Anyway, here is my translation:
"Decree with Statutory Power on the Establishemnt of the
Temporary Coat of arms and the Flag of the Republic of Bosnia and
Herzegovina
Art. 1. The coat of arms of the Republic of Bosnia and
Herzegovina is of a shield shape coloured blue divided into two
fields by a diagonal bend coloured white and with three stylized
fleurs-de-lis coloured golden- yellow in each of the fields.
Art. 2. The flag of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina is
rectangular with the coat of arms of the Republic of Bosnia and
Herzegovina in the middle on a white field. The ratio of the
width and the length of the flag is one to two.
Art. 3. This Decree is valid imidiately, and shall be published
in the "Službeni list R BiH".
Art. 4. This Law (sic!) is valid on the day of issue in the
"Službeni list R BiH"."
("Službeni list RBiH", 7/92, 27 March 1992)
Željko Heimer, 10 June and 9 July 2005
At <www.camo.ch>f
there is a PDF version of a book by prof. dr. Omer Ibrahimagic:
"Državno-pravni razvitak Bosne i
Hercegovine/Constitutional Development of Bosnia and
Herzegovina", Sarajevo, 1998, apparently a detailed analysis
of constitutional status of the state since 10th centruy until
1998. For us it is interesting for providing details on adoption
of the 1992 flag and coat of arms of Bosnia and Herzegovina. On
page 50 of the book (and page 112 in the English part) it is
stated that the flag and coat of arms decision was published in
the official gazette on 20th May 1992 - Službeni list RBiH,
br. 4, 20. maj 1992, while the decision the the use of these
symbols was published in the nr. 15 of 5th September 1992
(Službeni list RBiH, br. 15, 5. septembar 1992.).
No, this doesn't shed much light since the text I received from
Adi Mirojevic claims to be from Službeni list RBiH, br. 7,
27. mart 1992 - and this is apparently the temporary decision
that predated the final decision of 20 May - the number of the
official gazettes (4 above and 7 here) are not in the right
sequence - someone reports wrong (or this may be result of
wartime conditions and the number on the gazettes were
misprinted?)
In any case, it would be interesting to get copies of all three
mentioned issues of the official gazettes.
Željko Heimer, 6 January 2008
I don't know whether you saw the Eurovision contest on
Saturday night. There were the usual vex elements in th the
program, with various flags being flown by the crowd. The one
surprise was not that Bosnia-Hercegovina did so well, but that
many of their supporters were waving not the present flag but
rather the previous flag, the white flag with the blue
escustcheon distinguised by a gold bend and golden fleurs de lys.
Ron Lahav, 18 May 2009
![[Previous Flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina]](../images/b/ba-92v.gif)
image by Željko Heimer, 29 January 2005
![[Unofficial variation of the previous Flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina]](../images/b/ba-92a.gif)
image by Željko Heimer, 29 January 2005
This is an unofficial variant of 1992 Bosnian flag with
fleur-de-lys, but with white, instead of yellow border of the
shield.
Velid-aga Jerlagic, 13 April 1998
![[1992 arms of Bosnia and Herzegovina]](../images/b/ba)92.gif)
image by Željko Heimer, 29 January 2005
Azure, a bend argent between 6 fleur-de-lys or. The origin of
these arms, which are now on the flag of the republic of
Bosnia-Hercegovina, has long puzzled me, but they are in fact the
arms of the Kotromanic family, which ruled Bosnia in the 14th and
15th centuries. Other arms have also been attributed to Bosnia in
the 19th century.
I finally thought of a way to get at this question of the origin
of the current Bosnian flag: numismatics, of course. I found a
book by one Ivan Rengjeo, Corpus der mittel-alterlichen
Münzen von Kroatien, Slavonien, Dalmatien und Bosnien, Graz,
1959, which is as exhaustive as you can get on the topic (coins
from those regions, that is). I have also consulted an article by
Pavao Andelic on Medieval Seals of Bosnia-Hercegovina, in the
monograph series of the Academy of Sciences and Arts of
Bosnia-Hercegovina (Sarajevo, 1970), but it is in Serbo-Croat, so
I can only look at the (numerous) illustrations. What follows is
a historical/heraldic account, pieced together from these
sources, and a few encyclopedias.
Bosnia was dominated alternatively by Serbia and, from the 12th
century onward, by Croatia (in personal union with Hungary) until
the early 14th century. Typically, the king of Hungary and
Croatia appointed bans, or local governors, and, in
typical medieval fashion, these bans took advantage of any
weakness of the central monarchy to carve out territories for
themselves.
In the early 14th century, the ban of Croatia was Pavao
(Paul) Subic of Brebir or Breberio (a town in Dalmatia which was
given to the family in 1222): his father and grandfather were
counts or Trau or Trogir, his cousins were counts of Spalato or
Split. This powerful man titles himself ban of Croatia and
dominus Bosniae, and appoints his brother Mladen I Subic
(1302-04) and later his eldest son Mladen II (1312-14) as ban
of Bosnia. His second son Georg was count of Trau and Split, his
third son Pavao was count of Trau. By the third generation,
however, the family had lost its power. This first dynasty of bans
issued byzantine-style coins, with no heraldry. Their seals,
however, show the Subic arms: an eagle wing displayed, and 5
flowers with stems as crest (misread by Siebmacher as
ostrich-feathers). The style of the arms is very German, with the
shield tilted to the left, a German helm, lambrequins, and a
crest. There are no tinctures, but a junior branch issued from
Pavao count of Trau, the Subic de Zrin, bore Gules, two wings
sable (an interesting violation of the so-called tincture rule).
Pavao Subic was forced to cede control of Southern Bosnia to
Stjepan Kotromanic (died 1353), and, in 1314, Mladen II ceded the
banate of Bosnia to him. This established the Kotromanic dynasty
in Bosnia. Stjepan styles himself dei gratia Bosniae banus,
which asserts a fair measure of independence. Stjepan's brother
married Helena, daughter of Mladen II Subic, and his son Stjepan
Tvrtko (1353-91) succeeded Stjepan. In 1377, Tvrtko assumed the
title of King of Racia and Bosnia. His seals show the following
arms: a bend between six fleurs-de-lys, the helm is a hop-flower
on a long stem issuant from an open crown of fleurs-de-lys. The
Kotromanic were close to the Hungarian kings, and Stjepan's
daughter Elisabeth married Louis I of Hungary (reigned 1342-82).
Trvtko I was succeeded by Stjepan Dabisa (1391-98) and Stjepan
Ostoja (1398-1404, 1409-18). The latter's seal shoes different
arms, namely an open crown of fleurs-de-lys and the same helm and
crest as before. Tvrtko's son Tvrtko II (1404-09, 1421-43) used a
seal similar to his father's, with the arms of the Kotromanic
family itself, which are the bend between 6 fleur-de-lys, a
crowned helm with the same crest.
New coins are issued starting in 1436, markedly Western in style,
which display a full-blown achievement: an escutcheon bearing the
letter T, crowned with an open crown of fleur-de-lys. The helm is
crowned and the crest is a hop-flower on a long stem. The letter
T seems to stand for the name of the king. Later, around 1450,
impressive new gold coins show the Kotromanic arms.
The last kings are Stjepan Tomas Kotromanic (1444-61) and Stjepan
Tomasevic Kotrmomanic (1461-63). The kingdom disappears in 1463
when he is killed by the Turks. In the southern region called Hum
or Chelm, a local ban called Stjepan Vukcic Kosaca (died
1466) had proclaimed himself duke or herceg in 1448, and
is recognized by the Holy Roman Empire as duke of Saint-Abbas or
Saint-Sava in some texts (whence the name Hercegovina for that
area). Siebmacher says that the family was descended from the
Byzantine Comneno.
The Vukcic family arms appear on the seal of Stjepan Vukcic, and
his successors Vladislav Hercegovic (died 1489), Vlatko
Hercegovic (died 1489) and Stjepan Hercegovic (died 1517). namely
Gules, three bends argent, crest: a lion issuant holding in its
two paws a banner gules with a double cross argent (the Hungarian
state banne, according to Siebmacher). The same arms appear on
coins issued by a self-proclaimed duke of Split in the early 15th
century, namely on a bend between two crosses, three fleur-de-lys
bendwise.
The remaining question is: where did the fleur-de-lys in the
Kotromanic (and the Vukcic) arms come from? One distinct
possibility is Byzantium, whose style the first Bosnian coins
imitate closely. Byzantine emperors started using the
fleur-de-lys on their coinage soon after the creation of the
empire of Nicaea, after the fall of Constantinople in 1204.
But more realistically, the connection would be with the
Hungarian dynastic struggle which broke out in 1302 with the end
of the Arpad dynasty. The kings of Naples claimed the throne, and
it was during the struggle that, by pledging alliegance to one
side and to the other, the Bosnian bans managed to carve out
their independent fief. The Bosnian dynasty became quite close to
the Angevins, and the daughter of Stjepan, king of Bosnia,
married Louis I, king of Hungary. The kings of Naples were the
Anjou family, a junior branch of the French royal family, and
bore France differenced with a label gules. I can well imagine
the Kotromanic adopting, or being granted, fleur-de-lys on their
coat of arms as reward for taking the Angevin side. For the
moment, Bosnian history books are hard to come by, so I can't
easily confirm my hunch.
For some reason, these arms were forgotten after the 16th
century. A 18th century French genealogy of the Angevin kings of
Hungary blazons the arms of Louis' wife as: Or, issuing from the
sinister flank an arm embowed proper, vested Gules, holding a
sabre Argent (see: Bosnia in the
Austo-Hungarian Empire). These are also the arms attributed
by the Austrians to Bosnia-Hercegovina after it was annexed from
Turkey in 1908. However, a number of 19th century encyclopedias
give yet another coat of arms (for example, the French Larousse),
namely: Gules, a crescent Argent beneath an 8-pointed star of the
same. The crown over the shield is an Eastern crown, i.e. with
"spikes". These arms recall the old symbol of Croatia
on its early coinage. They are also the arms attributed to the
old kingdoms of Illyria and Bosnia in Siebmacher. There is some
evidence for a medieval use of the shield with the arm holding a
saber. William Miller, in Essays on the Latin Orient (Cambridge,
1921, p. 510) describes the arms displayed in Rome on the tomb of
Catherine (died 1478), daughter of Stjepan Vukcic duke of
Saint-Abbas, and married in 1446 to Stjepan Tomas Kotromanic,
last king of Bosnia (died 1461): his description is unfortunately
imprecise, but he mentions two horsemen (which he says is the
Kotromanic emblem) and a "mailed arm with a sword in the
center" (which he says represents Primorje, or
the Coastland).
Francois Velde, 30 June 1995
The official Coat of Arms of Bosnia and Herzegovina was
adopted in the same time as the flag, but unofficially used
before that date, most often by the Bosniaques.
Velid-aga Jerlagic, 13 April 1998
As i read through Francois Velde text, I felt that
there was not a sufficient clarity upon certain points.
namely, it is easy to come to the wrong assumption that the
"dynasties" with names of Kotromanic and later
Herzegovic - virtually the only independent Bosnian monarchs -
were more closely affiliated with the Croatian and German
loyalties than they were to those of Serbian, who in that time,
or around it (14th century) reached the peak of their influence
on the Balkans.
I am quite sure that these two loyal families were politically
Christian Orthodox ones, while Croatians (and needless to say
Germans) were Catholics (of course, at the time, it was hard for
anyone to distinguish people in Bosnia between Serbs and Croats,
as well as between Catholics and the Orthodox).
The most apparent suggestion to this that I found in your text is
that, as you see, the names of the Kotromanic rulers start with
the prefixed common name Stjepan, a name exclusive to Serbian
rulers. in Serbian royal dynasty of Nemanjic all rulers names
started with this Stjepan, after the initiator of the dynasty,
Stjepan Nemanja. The first of Kotromanjic, as best as I can
recall, was in blood relation with the Nemanjic, and adopting
Stjepan from them was probably a clever move that increased his
power in the eyes of the people (Nemanjic were very powerful and
revered - many of them were cannonized by church).
Also, these Kotromanjic and Hercegovic, in their full
titles pronounced themselves as Serbian rulers. (The formal title
of one of the Kotromanjic is a ridiculously long one and starts
something like "The Serbain king of all Bosnia, Herzegovina,
Zahumlje..")
There's also mention that Stjepan Vukcic Kosaca was known to Holy
Roman Empire as St. Sava. These two are certainly two
separate identities, St. Sava is quite decidedly the most famous
Serbian medieval personage, and is the son of the above mentioned
Stjepan Nemanja.
Sretko Becarevic, 18 Febuary 2003
While I guess that Sretko might well be close to the truth
explaining that the loyalities and alliances in the region are
very hard to track and were very frequently changed according to
the political climate, however, the main argument regarding the
name is flawed. Stephen was a very popular royal name in larger
region - just to name one, the king founder of the Hungarian
state is also known as Stephen (St. Istvan in magyar and indeed
Sv. Stjepan in Croatian). Serbian version of the name is rather
Stevan. I believe that Serbs refer to their historical men in the
text with that name (e.g. Stevan Nemanja). Blood relations are
also of little significance, as it is no wander that royalities
in a region are all related, it was all-European fenomenon.
Indeed the modern (and not so modern) historians tend to
"appropriate" dynasties for many resons, so Croats
consider many Bosnian feudal families as their own, Serbs see
them as Serbs, and Bosniaks are ready to explain that they are
none. I see no hope that we should resolve the issue here, we can
only report various theories (or legends, as you wish).
One may consider this otherwise. The heraldry and CoAs are
inherently "Western" concept. Whenever these appear,
they would indicate "inclination" of the bearers to the
West. That, of course, does not prove anything, as the cultural
influence could have remained after the "inclination"
changed once again...
Željko Heimer, 18 Febuary 2003
Looking for the writings of Enver Imamovic, who published
several articles in various scientific papers regarding his work
on popularization and adoption of the fleur-de-lis as the
national symbols of Bosnia and Herzegovima in early 1990's, I
located this
article publicshed in "Duh Bosne - An International,
Interdisciplonary, Bilingual, Online Journal". The article
is available in two languages.
The article discussed the origins of fleur-de-lis as symbol used
in Bosnia and Herzegovina, as a symbol of Bosniak people in
pre-Turkish period and during the 1990's war. The most
interesting part is probably the description of circumstances of
adoption of the fleur-de-lis symbols for the independent B&H
in 1990, to which the author had significant personal engagement.
Note that the political views that are expressed in the article
are the author's only.
Željko Heimer, 15 November 2008