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image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 11 August 2008
See also:According to the Surrey History
Centre web page, "The design (...) is the
current logo for Surrey County Council which appears on all stationery and
publications. When Surrey County Council is represented at an outdoor function
it is also used as a flag. The colour is green and the design of oak leaves
reflects the fact that the county of Surrey contains much woodland."
Francisco Santos, 19 June 2003
This quote was interpreted by Francisco Santos as a ~7:9 very
dark green flag with the logo and lettering in very light pastel aqua. The logo
shows two oak leaves intertwined to form a circle in Escher-like fashion, above
"Surrey County Council" composed in two lines with variable-stroke sans-serif
capitals, the upper line ("Surrey") much larger; all centered to a vertical axis
in the
middle of the flag area.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 11
August 2008
The county of Surrey has had two coats of arms. The original one uses colours
taken from the personal arms of the ancient Earls of Surrey. A later
one was designed after 1965 when a large portion of the county was absorbed into
Greater London. The later design does not include the Saxon Crown (which
represents Kingston-on-Thames where an ancient stone is kept on which 10th
Century English kings were crowned and before that was used by the sub-kings of
Surrey) nor does it include the ermine.
James Frankcom, 7 October 2003
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 10 August 2008
Older arms (granted 1934): Per pale azure and sable a fess per pale ermine
and or, in chief a representation of the crown of King Edgar proper and a sprig
of oak fructed argent [from Briggs, 1971].
Ian Sumner, 11 August 2008
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 10 August 2008
The later coat of arms consists of a shield divided into halves, blue and
black. The blue, and also the gold colour in the design are taken from the arms
of the Warrennes, the first Earls of Surrey The black derives from the Arms of
the towns of Guildford and Godalming. The interlaced gold keys which lie across
the shield diagonally represent the power of the ancient Abbey of St Peter at
Chertsey which once held extensive lands in Surrey. The keys form part of the
Arms of the Diocese of Winchester - which used to include much of Surrey - and
have also been retained in the Arms of the Diocese of Guildford. The sprig of
oak symbolises Surrey's extensive rural areas and is drawn from the Badge of the
FitzAlans, former Earls of Surrey. It also appears, incidentally, in the mouth
of the Supporters of the Arms of the Duke of Norfolk, the present Earl of
Surrey. The woolpack recalls the importance of the wool trade in medieval Surrey
and acts as a reminder of the ancient wealth of the County.
Laurence Jones and
James Frankcom, 13 October 2003
Current arms (granted 1974): Per pale Azure and Sable two Keys in bend wards
upwards and outwards bows interlaced Or between in dexter base a Woolpack and in
sinister chief a Sprig of Oak fructed Argent [from
http://www.civicheraldry.co.uk/surrey.html#surrey%20cc].
Ian Sumner,
11 August 2008
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 10 August 2008
A camping
equipment and adventure travel company offers a flag for sale, based on this
coat of arms, as a "county flag".
cjc.king, António Martins-Tuválkin,
22, 23 April 2008
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 11 August 2008
In 2003, I enquired of the County Council if they used a flag, and received
this reply from the council's Brand Manager:
"The County Council has a flag
carrying the coat of arms of the Chairman of the County Council. This flag is
only flown when the County Council sits. The coat of arms used is the arms of
the Chairman and not the county and can only be used if permission is given by
the Chairman. The flag is a large oblong with the coloured coat of arms
positioned in the centre. The surrounding area/background that is not filled
with the coat of arms is a creamy white."
So the banner of arms was
certainly not used by the Council themselves at that time (although things could
have changed in the past five years).
Ian Sumner, 23 April 2008
image by André Coutanche, 10 February 2006
I have just spoken with the Marketing Department at Roehampton and I am
pleased to confirm that the emblem is indeed a flag. She says that there are
several examples of the flag on the campus, and that one is carried in academic
processions. She has no idea of the dimensions of the flag nor of the individual
squares, however. The arms displayed are those of the four colleges which
constitute the University. They represent Digby Stuart College, Froebel College,
Southland College, and Whiteland College.
I am not sure whether the arms of Digby Stuart College represent either the
Digbys or the Stuarts, or indeed if there is a Digby Stuart family. Froebel
College is obviously named after the 19th Century German educational innovator,
but I do not know if he or his family were armigerous. Southland and Whiteland
Colleges would presumably have made-to-order coats of arms, as they are not
named after individuals or families.
Ron Lahav, 10 February 2006
I would hazard that the fourth quarter is the gold and blue chequy of the de
Warennes, onetime Earls of Surrey. They were used in a number of civic grants to
represent the county, and in the arms of the University of Surrey.
Laurence Jones, 10 February 2006