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El Sr. Presidente is set on a fictional unnamed Southamerican
country; it has a flag (along with the coat of arms and what appears to
be the official seal)
José Eduardo González Vargas, 28 November 2007
by Eugene Ipavec, 21 December 2007
The flag consist in two halfs equally divided with a black or dark
blue circle on the middle. The left half is red and the other half
is white
It can be seen here from minute 0:45 to 0:50 along the flag with the
black seal (that is always displayed next to the national flag á la
Nazi Germany flag) on this video
Sometimes seemed that the white was yellowish, but is surely white
as can be seen on the presidential band
A picture with the black seal.
A picture of the flag, notice that the coat of arms is the seal, but golden and inside a
coat of arms.
José Eduardo González Vargas, 28 November 2007
I'd say this is white at the hoist, and red at the fly. centred,
something like 2/3rd of the height, is a circle with the seal, again
half of that height, gold on black.
The party state emblem on a flag of its own seems white on a dark blue.
At least, in photograph 17 it colours blue when it catches the light,
suggesting that though it's dark, it's something like fotw very dark
blue or really dark / Union Jack / Old Glory blue. The emblem, it seems,
is never in full view on the video, except that near the end it appears
on an officers cap. It is this flag, possibly the party flag, that in
the video compliments the national flag. This flag would appear to be 2:3, so I assume the national flag is as well.
Picture 8 has a good shot of the dexter half of the emblem, as it hangs
from the front of the desk. As the other half is a mirror image, I
expect the experienced giffer would deem this sufficient.
[For those without graphics: The sinister(!) half of the emblem is like
a stack of four rather flat tildes '~', except that each is slightly
tilted to the dexter so it's ever ascending. The top "tilde" is twice as
wide and twice as high, an maybe tilted a bit more, giving it an
appearance similar to a severely frowning eyebrow. Since the larger
"tildes" stick out on both sides, only these larger ones from both
halves come near to each other, the others simply form two stacks with
space in between.] The similarity between a frowning eyebrow and the
symbols that make up the emblem, is stressed by the posters of Señor
Presidente where he is indeed seen with such a frown.
In the background is a third flag, a hanging banner, something like 5:8,
suspended from a staff by five ribbons. [Do we have a catalogue of flag
shapes somewhere?] It's a dark coloured flag with what appears to be the
seal in white, maybe 4/5th of the width. The seal consists of arms
bearing the emblem, likewise white on black. The arms would appear to be
a shield, crowned and supported, with a motto following the base, but
looking hard, I'd say the "supporters" might actually be the ends of
two, or more, of the symbols making up the emblem, crossing behind the
shield. Whether the "crown" really is a crown is hard to determine as
there's a lamp in the way. The motto would appear to be a slightly
shorter word and a slightly longer word, but whether it's the same "para
siempre" we see on the posters I couldn't say.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 30 November 2007
Is it like the image I sent ?
Regarding the emblem, *this* is rather odd. (see
here)
Eugene Ipavec, 21 December 2007
Not quite. In your image, there are no arms around the emblem, creating a better
design, but unfortunately without the impression of a seal that the film
makers must have been after. You can see the flag on the left side of
this picture, as well as a larger version of the seal against the rear
wall on this picture.
Here is a screen capture of the flag.
Regarding the shadowguard flag, weird. Quite similar to
this. Stranger than fiction. No, wait: This is fiction (are fictions?) -
strange as fiction! It does make you wonder how they come up with such symbols, doesn't it?
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 22 December 2007