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The Name of the Duchy Aremberg is not corect The name is "Arenberg".
This is a famely lift in the "Eifel" a territorium near France in the south
of Germany.
Aremberg is only the name of a little village in the possession of
the counts of Arenberg.
Gerhard Wolf, 3 Feb 2007
Actually Aremberg is a municipality in the Verbandsgemeinde Adenau,
Ahrweiler county, Rhineland-Palatinate, that is: a few miles West of Koblenz.
Here
we read (my translation:)
"The castle on the Aremberg peak was probably founded in the middle
of the 12th century, and destroyed by the French in 1683. The Counts of
Arenberg extended their possessions into Holland, Belgium and Switzerland,
but retained their Arenberger territory, because that was the base for
their promotion into the Imperial Countship (1549), the Princely status
(1576) and the Dukedom (1644). The last reigning duke, Ludwig Engelbert,
went into exile."
More here, with a blazoning
of the arms: "drei Mispelblüten (Rosen) auf rotem Grund" - gules
three medlar-blossoms (roses) argent.
It is not clear whether the flowers are medlars or roses..
There is a saga that Hartmann von Arburg (whose existence is in doubt)
fell wounded under a medlar-tree. Three blossoms fell on the blood-drenched
shield. That would explain the arms.
Others, like the first chronicler, Pater Karl, speak of roses. According
to P.Wirtgen the arms were undountedly based on the rose of Altena.
In 1576 Margaretha von Arenberg had coins minted with the motto: Protector
meus es tu (My Protector Are You)
In 1802 the Ducal house owned on the left bank of the Rhine 4 square
miles, 1 townlet (Flecke), 11 villages with 508 houses and 2918 inhabitants.
The Lords of Arenberg owned also:
Arenberg-Meppen, in the Prussian district of Osnabrück: 2197 km2,
60.686 inh;
The county of Recklinghausen in Westphalia: 830 km2,
160.000 inh.
Large areas in Belgium and France. (perhaps the Forest of Wallers-Aremberg,
the small bunch of trees and its excellent road, so loved by the cyclists
in the Parijs-Roubeke race, - and its spectators)
Finally I found no trace of Papenburg or Papenberg in the Arenberg files,
so that flag has been removed to Papenburg
- not unlogically...
Jarig Bakker, 2 Feb 2010
The famous "trouée d'Arenberg" (Arenberg Trench, locally known
as "Dreve des Boules d'Hérin")) was the road linking the village
of Wallers to the colliery of Arenberg ("fosse d'Arenberg", opened
by the Compagnie des Mines d'Anzin in 1899). The colliery was named for
the former owner of the place, the lords of Arenberg.
The "trouée" was added to the route of Paris-Roubaix as advized by
Jean Stablinski (1932-2007), a former coal miner in Arenberg, remembered
by a stele inaugurated in 2008 at the entrance of the "trouée".
Stablinksi used to say: "I am the only one to have crossed the "trouée"
above and under the ground.
The Arenberg rose found its way on the flag of the Belgian municipalities
of Hensies and Rebecq.
Drogenbos kept the colours of the arms but
dropped the roses from the flag. For more information se the website of
the Arenberg Foundation.
Ivan Sache, 2 Feb 2010
A yellow-red-blue horizontal tricolor, having at its center the arms
of Aremberg. This has a reported use in 1807. It is not clear if this refers
to the same flag. If it does one of the reports would
be mistaken. On the other hand this may represent a modification of the
earlier design.
Norman Martin, Apr 1998